An inside look at the craft, challenges and joy of making graphic novels. Ziggy Hanaor, acclaimed author and director of Cicada Books, is joined by illustrator Benjamin Phillips, winner of the 2024 V&A Illustration Award for Children, for a lively discussion on how graphic novels are built through creative partnership. Drawing on their own collaborations (Alte Zachen and Shushu), alongside examples from The Egg Incident and Everything Amplified, they explore why the medium is thriving, how illustrators take ownership of visual storytelling, and how flexible, trust-driven collaboration transforms intimate stories into powerful graphic narratives.